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Fake driving licenses a shocker
· By: staff
· Date: 2003-09-15
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Pssssst: wanna buy a driver's license?
A U.S. congressional investigation team got a rude shock when they checked to see how difficult it is to get a fake driver's license. Not only was it not difficult to obtain a license, in some cases the state DMV officials were quite helpful!
The investigation began in July 2002, when a team from the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of congress, set out to test the system that issues driver licenses. Agents operating undercover in seven states and the District of Columbia, were able to obtain driver's licenses at every agency where they applied. In many cases the identification documents they presented were meant to be clearly fake, but in every case, the agents were able to obtain a license.
What was of particular concern to investigators was that, even though the fake documents were spotted in many of the locations where the agents applied for licenses, the fake paperwork was never confiscated, law enforcement officials were never notified, and in some cases the agents merely left the motor vehicle office, fixed the documents, and re-applied - often on the same day - with success .
Security implications
The findings of the GAO investigators have serious implications for anti-terrorism security measures. In recent years, despite strong protest from civil liberties groups, the issue of a national identity card continues to be raised. However, the specter of individuals being stopped in the street and asked for "their papers," in the style of authoritarian countries raises hackles in the U.S. and other democratic countries. Driver licenses have come to be widely accepted as de facto identity cards, but the ease with which the GAO agents were able to obtain fake licenses will undoubtedly increase demands for national ID cards.
For some, national ID cards would go a long way toward solving the problem of security and terrorism. Oracle CEO, Larry Ellison offered to donate the software needed to create national ID cards soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist attack. However, opponents say such cards would endanger civil liberties and give the federal government too much data about individual citizens and their whereabouts. The American Civil Liberties Union says calls the national ID cars a "misplaced, superficial quick fix."
ID Cards, says the ACLU, would not, for example, have prevented the September 11 attacks, since the attackers had legal documents. Criminals, the ACLU adds, can always get the documents they need. Naitonal ID cards would be expensive to implement and would merely be "a simplistic and naïve attempt to use gee-whiz technology to solve complex social and economic problems."
The main threat of a national ID card, says the ACLU, is that "it would require a governmental database of every person in the U.S. containing continually updated identifying information it would create a system of internal passports that would significantly diminish the freedom and privacy of law-abiding citizens. Once put in place, it is exceedingly unlikely that such a system would be restricted to its original purpose." After all, the ACLU adds, "The original Social Security Act contained strict prohibitions against use of Social Security cards for unrelated purposes, but those strictures have been routinely ignored and steadily abandoned over the past 50 years."
The government of Ireland recently abandoned a proposal for a national identity card. While recognizing the advantages of such a card, Ireland's Data Protection commissioner, Donal Linehan, observed that the cards would pose "very serious privacy implications for everybody."
Nevertheless, there's enormous pressure to introduce the cards. Last year, the British government unveiled a controversial proposal to introduce compulsory identity cards. Home Secretary David Blunkett told Parliament that he envisioned a universal "entitlement" card, for which everyone in Britain would register to gain the right to social services, benefits and employment. Many Britons see the card as a way to control a massive flow of illegal aliens that is costing the country about 2 billion pounds (about US $3.2). Civil liberty advocates see the 'entitlement' label as nothing more than a clever device to get the cards accepted.
Driver license as ID card
Over the years, Driver Licenses have become a sort of de facto ID card, accepted for many identification purposes such as check purchases, travel identification, banking. It comes as a shock to find the system of issuing them so lax.
The shocking thing, according to privacy expert Robert Douglas, is that DMV employees didn't do anything about the forged documents. "That means there is no risk to the person trying to obtain the false drivers license."
Douglas, whose American Privacy Consultants firm advises banks and other financial institutions on identity theft, will be testifying before the Senate hearing on national security, feels that this is a serious risk to security. It means that criminals or terrorists can keep probing at the system until they find a vulnerable area.
In California, which seemed to have the most vulnerabilities, agents managed
to complete the process to receive three temporary state drivers licenses within
two days, using the same fake information. No one at the DMV noticed that two
individuals were simultaneously using the same fictitious name and same fraudulent
supporting paperwork, according to the GAO report.
- Fake Licenses easy to get - MSNBC web article
- Internet Fraud - US Dept of Justice
- Arizona Republic article - License fraud easy
- Novelty license a threat
- Internet Fraud - UK falls behind
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Comments
Admin, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 02:31 PM
fast fish, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 09:25 AM
Who Is Eddie?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2684895.stm
minder, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 09:20 AM
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199293/cmhansrd/1993-07-26/Debate-15.html
The Minister will be aware of the leaked report from the Association of Chief Police Officers in 1987. It identified from a limited survey 609 firms that had given the police cause for concern. Another report by the association in 1990, prepared at the request of the Home Office, found 168 instances of staff, owners, managers and directors of private security firms being arrested or charged with serious offences. I understand that the police are still looking for a former Securicor employee, Eddie Maher, who hopped it with £1 million. Securicor has put up a reward of £100,000.
minder, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 09:03 AM
fcuk, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 08:50 AM
well said, someone is posting here just to wind someone up. Stop reading and go about your biz elsewhere. My dad is bigger than your dad. Black Diamond I can see you are responding to mrhunts post but can't you see he's having you at it, "question marks" "like the riddler" why don't you just say he's grown a beard and label him Bin Laden. I think its way out of line posting all that and the mods here should remove it.
Curious Orange, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 08:06 AM
Amazon.com was setup by Al Capone and Bugsy Seigel amongst others. In a bid to revolutionise the sales of books, DVDs etc. they set the website up with the help of Jack the Hat McVitie, Arthur Thompson and Charlie Chocolate and the Ooompa Loompas.
Reggie Kray's pet hamster was a regular visitor and I could name-drop for another 10 minutes but I think anyone with an ounce of common-sense can see this whole thing is becoming ridiculous. Please can everyone stop slagging each other, name-dropping like a London taxi driver and talking nonsense. Are there any mods here to cut out this drivel ???
fcuk, on Friday, 22. June 2007 at 07:47 AM
what a load of old bitches you are here, the forum administrator should have better control. Perhaps you should could consider this post's topic "Fake Driving Licences Shocker" what the hell has that got to do with throwing crap take your pathetic e-war outside the arena.
kpna - scum is something that collects around the side of your bath, you want to think about that.............
kpna, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 09:16 PM
Confidential access are nothing but scum.
They will rip you off and steal your money.
They are frauds.
Jerry, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 05:33 PM
Got my novelty UK DL from novmaster.com today in the post. Well chuffed - great service.
safety pin, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 04:04 PM
Yes no doubt ' you heard through the grapevine ' because you ARE them LOL. £180k a month and you STILL find time to come on here every day LMAO.
Btw if you keep coming up with new names and spamming here you will eventually move the threads up about you publishing peoples personal data and stitching other people up ! Either snitches or a sting site.
300, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 05:15 AM
CA Are Legit Vendors, have been for years and have outdone any other so called site, that pop up for a few months to grab what they can and disappear,,,, CA have and always will be Tops in Novelty Documents.
You Scam them, You'll pay the price
Simple as that.
total chaos, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 05:06 AM
"if you complain you get your money back a kick up the arse and told where to go" ? Surely this approach won't get you business ?
Can we PLEASE move back to the topic people ? We're looking for legit vendors of DLs.
fast fish, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 04:59 AM
here, here
Caxess Control, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 04:56 AM
and you mac need to come and tell it to our faces, its assholes like yourself that do the ripping on our site and expect to get away with it.
mac, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 11:21 PM
ConfidentialAccess is nothing but a bunch of criminals who think they are bad asses.
They will just rip you off and then tell everyone who you are on there site just to humiliate you.
popeye, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 06:34 PM
well i think this CA is novmaster if you ask me what a bunch of losers, funny how novmaster are hosting off the same malaysian servers. Use genuine licences people.....
fast fish, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 06:00 PM
Yeh right really bad puggy, who the hell do you bat for? Do you class yourself under one of these banners. At least they keep their community under manners.
No.1, no member is to advertise, upload posts or photo's or even discuss illegal child porn. If you do, you will be isolated from the community and all your personal details will be passed to the relevant law enforcers. CA do not tolerate anything to do with illegal pornography.
No.2 no member is to advertise or post any subject regarding illegally classed drugs, if you do you will be isolated and suspended from the community and all of your personal details including IP logs will be passed to the relevant law enforcers.
No.3 no member is to advertise any terror related article, subject within the CA private community, CA do not trade with US embargoed Countries. We do not supply any type of document which could be used to facilitate air travel. Any member suspected of supporting or endorsing terror groups will have their personal details passed to the relevant security services.
joyce, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 05:54 PM
I think everyone should stop slagging off sites here and lets just do something constructive with our time. This isn't achieving anything.
kennyn, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 05:25 PM
totally agree one hundred percent mate. They've stitched a few up in their time and this keeps them out of the clink to run the site - hence their '5 years' boast. These clowns co-operate with the old bill, people disappear from their forum and they can conveniently say they were 'banned'. Load of old fanny
puggy, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 03:35 PM
one thing that should be added to this is this they have a 3 nos or some shit like rule which means basically if the police contact them they will grass u up in a second stay well away from ca unless you wanna taste some porridge THEY ARE WRONG UNS
mrhunt, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 03:20 PM
firstly, one positive thing that can be said about ca is that when you pay you do get your product however whether it has the right details on it who knows,the licences that they offer , welll let me put it this way my mate is serving 18 months for fraud because the licence failed a test at thye bank and the police turned up.The hologram is the wrong colour under uv and dont let no one tell you it dont matter, IT DOES.As for being heavy east end gangsters, behave yourselfs people, i know who own ca and while i agree they aint white collar mongs they aint in the heavy bracket with some other london gangsters.
y opinion, good for utilities (check all details throughly tho) STAY CLEAR OF DVLA they offer.
fast fish, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 01:46 PM
playing with fire comes to mind
Tim nice-but Dim, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 01:24 PM
Ooopss! I just read John Jo's link above and its very interesting. Apparently the people involved in this confidential access site are also into those Nigerian scams as well as making idle threats to people. I think people should have a look before parting with their cash.
catchmeifyoucan, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 01:09 PM
The service from novmaster.com is first class. Any place that can get a license out to me a day after paying gets my vote. I've tried other places and they haven't impressed.
john jo, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 11:53 AM
Yes confidential access are a great company (he said sarcastically). For those of you one here wanting to pay by credit card they plaster pictures and personal details of people doing chargebacks on their site (claiming that it's fraudulent when it's not)! Feel free to check this.
Also have a read here:
http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/domain-name-scams/8219-there-back.html
3rd rate plastic gangsters if ever there were. I don't know which sites are legit and which are not but unless you are willing to do some serious arse-licking be prepared to have your private details divulged if you complain in the slightest. Or be bombarded by 'we are gonna come round and fix you out' threats.
Pathetic.
fast fish, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 07:20 AM
novmaster.com shows from June 2007, 20 days history or am i missing something???????????
fast fish, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 07:18 AM
Yeh top notch company really believe in personal freedom their community is something else. They sort of do everything you can even fake any SMS number you want, way back machine shows theyve been going along time this is how i check sites out for history http://www.archive.org/web/web.php cool archiving centre of websites from birth.
300, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 05:39 PM
Buygib, I'm with you on this one.
I've been dealing with www.confidentialaccess.com for over 5 years, Best Quality products, Professional Service.
buygib, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 05:20 PM
Why not just hit www.confidentialaccess.com they're the daddies in anything fake.
george, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 02:31 PM
Hi all, well got my licence from novmaster today. I must say it looks great, A1. It has all the markings of a real licence. This site can be trusted!!
Thanks novmaster
Attn Rexxus, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 08:07 AM
After mentioning the site in an enquiry to novmaster they asked me to post the following:
'Rexxus as we said before we bear you absolutely no malice. We do not wish for people to be scammed any more than you do and we are sure that your opinion is valued on drivers.com. In light of this our offer still stands - contact us to set this up.
Unlike most of the sites mentioned on here we can back up everything we claim. You questioned our legitimacy and so we are more than prepared to provide you with proof in the form of a free sample. Offer still stands but please only Rexxus - no impersonators please.'
I think you should take them up on this personally Rexxus. Although I haven't yet ordered they have been nothing but polite and informative in my communication with them. Worth a try.
Joe
Dan, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 05:22 AM
Rexxus is perfectly entitled to not want to give his personal details to these people. Sure it would be great for everyone if he took up the offer, but its his details at stake.
Rexxus has been a HUGE help here and I think everyone should appreciate what he has done.
yttrilium, if I had the I.T skills I would be right with you. I just make a request that you take out ukfakeid.com!
Rexxus, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 09:54 PM
I may take up novmaster.coms offer for a free id sample. I looked at there site and they look pretty promising.
I think that they are worth a shot.
www.novmaster.com, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 09:43 PM
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
yttrilium, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 06:50 PM
Is the idea of attacking these server's still open. I am an active member of hitb.org security forum (under a differant alias) and willing to lead an operation on taking these server's down. Those with knowledge of Retina or Nessus, programming in C or VB, and know how to use a proxy! email me. Other' send URL's with your reason why the server should be taken down.
My aim is to gather together a team of people who are intelligable to take down sites scamming people. Even the fools who apply for Fake ID's do not deserve to be scammed.
yttrilium@gmail.com
Neals Boyfriend, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 05:16 PM
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
Neal, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 11:57 AM
Just shut up already.
Let people find out on there own if it is a scam or not.
I don't want to hear another word about www.novmaster.com
Crankster, on Monday, 18. June 2007 at 06:00 AM
Al Bundy´s comments has no value ie. pure BS since he most likely is working for www.novmaster.com.
This thread seems to be a mix of people who have been ripped off by various sites and people who are defending the very same sites without any proof whatsoever.
999, on Sunday, 17. June 2007 at 02:19 PM
I strongly advice you NOT to buy any "novelty dl/id etc" if you reside in UK or the US. Many of these services are under investigation. You have been warned!
Maggie B, on Sunday, 17. June 2007 at 12:33 PM
Hi Lilly,
That's totally fine -everyone is entitled to their opinion. I got what I required and only posted to try and help others but I'll let them make up their own minds.
I can't obviously go into fine detail but I merely paid cash in at the Post Office for my order and everything went fine from there.
Each to their own.
Al Bundy, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 01:25 PM
novmaster.com offered to send a free sample to that rexxus idiot, but rexxus declined,
scam sites dont offer to send samples,
novmaster and phatism are both legit
but go ahead and keep saying they are a scam and I will keep coming back here and keep making you look stupid.
Al Bundy, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 01:11 PM
noveltyid.us is a scam, not a sting op, retard that posted a sting operation
phatism.com is legit
novmaster.com is legit
move on with your lives
Lilly, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 12:29 PM
thank you for your reply. i however think you work for www.novmaster.com if you read the posts here, all providers just wants to take your money.
Please state the address you sent the payment to and how.
Maggie B, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 09:24 AM
Hi,
Sorry for the delay but been unable to get web access for few days.
I received my novelty license from novmaster.com and after spotting a misp-print (my date of birth had one digit wrong) I contacted them that morning. Within approx. 4-5 hours I was issued with another tracking number (Royal Mail Special Delivery) and the corrected item arrived before 1PM the next day ! This is most certainly not a hoax in my opinion and the quality is superb. Also fast reply to emails and very good customer relations for such an 'underground' product. Very highly recommended.
MRB, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 09:21 AM
Simon
"But to all you people, it is NOT ILLEGAL to own a novelty id card"
If you get busted, refer to "Simon"
-How can you say that for sure? Illegal where? Canada? Spain? Nonsense!
Lilly, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 08:26 AM
not a word from MaggieB in spite she promised post the result. i think she is connected to www.novmaster.com which appears to be a hoax.
this forum seems to be a marketing place for people working for various sites offering id´s/dl´s etc ) : and no one is to be trusted
MRB, on Saturday, 16. June 2007 at 04:23 AM
www.noveltyid.us - Stay away - STING OPERATION!
This is NOT a safe site.
Simon, on Friday, 15. June 2007 at 08:29 PM
Is this really the way they have stooped to tracking criminals. Cannot believe they set up this site to track who wants to buy a fake id or driver license. I too bought from www.noveltyid.us and they make good stuff
But to all you people, it is NOT ILLEGAL to own a novelty id card
Simon
Darren, on Friday, 15. June 2007 at 08:14 PM
Just got my cards from www.noveltyid.us they made me an awesome novelty certificate. Oh and it looks so real. Andy bye the way, if this is an fbi tracing site, just wanna let you feds know I am only using it for my own ego to display at my home, so my releatives think i am smart. So f#@*& you for tracking this site
george, on Friday, 15. June 2007 at 02:31 PM
Hi all, well I sent info to novmaster on thursday. I now have a tracking number on item. Let you`s know what happen in next few days.
